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May 15, 2019  

080: Lucy Bartholomew

080: Lucy Bartholomew

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Brad’s unusual training week produces good results.
Julian’s back to doing sessions and skipping Mother’s Day.  
Brady has an interesting pacing experience on his 1k rep session.

Previous guest Malcolm Hicks runs Dusseldorf Marathon in a PB of 2:13 and earns selection for Doha World Championships to represent New Zealand


Listener question asks about the ideal for pre-race routine looks like for both the elites and punters while Moose trials a new segment, the Celebrity Runner Tweet of the Week:


Lucy Bartholomew chats with Julian about her young ultra-running career starting with that infamous first Surf Coast Century in 2012 and her progression into the sport in general, including the attempts in coaching her.
She goes through her motivations in running and how that played into managing the training loads and sessions leading into the 2018 Western States, before talking about what setbacks she’s come across and putting her energy into other things as well as her cross-training routine. Julian probes into whether a road marathon on the cards, and a discussion of where women are within the sport as well as the dark side of professional trail running and what Lucy’s goals and dream races are, as well as future opportunities outside of running before going into her well-documented social media presence synonymous with her and the trail running scene before touching on her plant-based diet.
Lucy shares with reveals that her favourite place in the world to run that has a weird link to Inside Running and in Melbourne before talking Salomon shoes and the 2019 Western States.

May 8, 2019  

079: Harry Summers

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Brad finally puts the brakes on his easy runs and puts in his best week of the year.
Julian wonders whether Moneghetti could rally the Ballarat faithful - if he’s not busy winning Nail Can Hill.
Brady runs 5th leg in the opener of the Cross Country season at Jells Park.

Ryan Gregson runs 3:35 in the Doha Diamond League 1500m securing his Worlds Athletics Qualifier

Eliud Kipchoge announced in INEOS 1:59 Challenge for another attempt to break the 2-hour marathon barrier, creating some confusion around his commitment to Berlin Marathon


Ellie Pashley sets a 10,000m personal best of 31:43 at Payton Jordan Invitational and qualifies for World Championship Athletics in Doha later in the year, as does Jordan Gusman in the 5000m in a personal best pof13:21. Episode guest Harry Summers also sets a personal best in the 10,000m in 27:57, while Max Stevens of Team Tempo clocks 8:29.48 in the Steeplechase.
Women’s 10000m
Men’s 10000m
Men’s 5000m
Men’s Steeplechase


Launceston 10k cancelled amid lack of sponsorship and funding support.
Tasmanian Running Festival Postponing Statement


Ultrarunner Jim Walmsley sets the 50 Mile world record during the 100k attempt around the  Hoka One One Project Carbon X Launch
Lets Run Write Up


Listener Lesto asks why the different Nike elite kits aren’t available to the masses, opening the possibility for a great marketing opportunity.

Moose on the Loose implores the importance of researching the nuances of the Caster Semenya ruling before voicing their opinion.


Recorded just a few weeks prior, Harry Summers chats with Brady in Melbourne about his experience in the World Cross Country Championships in Aarhus, Denmark both on the course and through the camp, then following it up with his win in the 2019 Run For The Kids and how the win helped him on his way to Payton Jordan Invitational this week.
They take a look back at the highlights of Harry’s running career including the Junior World Cross Country Championship in Jordan, World Half Marathon Championships in Bulgaria and setting the Box Hill Athletic Club 3000m record while alternating between the Nike 4 %s and Vibram Five Fingers. He also talks about the response from the article with Jarryd Clifford chronicling his life in elite running and opening up with his mental issues and the impact of running as a lifestyle. He closes with who he rates in the Australian running scene and what’s coming up in the year ahead.

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May 2, 2019  

078: Sinead Diver, Brett Robinson, Jack Rayner

078: London Marathon 2019 with Brett Robinson, Jack Rayner & Sinead Diver.


Brad logs in his longest run since February.
Julian’s heart rate goes all over the place.
Brady solves the world’s problems over the half marathon at O’Keefe Rail Trail.

This week’s episode is an extended recap of the London Marathon, starting with review of the coverage options before discussing the elite performances of the race.
Eliud Kipchoge solidifies his claim as the greatest marathon runner of all time, running the second fastest time ever of 2:02:37. Mosinet Geremew places second in 2:02:55 and becomes the third runner in history to run under 2:03. Brigid Kosgei runs the ninth fastest marathon ever, winning in 2:18:20.


It was a memorable day for our elite Aussies:


Brett, Jack and Sinead all check in to give debriefs on their races, giving their accounts on the lead-up to their races and how it all unfolded, unpacking their tactics and the moves made throughout the race. They each also discuss what their plans are for the year ahead.


In other London Marathon news, half marathon record holder Abraham Kiptum was banished after a positive doping result, followed by some a bizarre press statement from his management


A race at the Queensland University of Technology has been called out on neglecting to give women prize money, reigniting discussions from the Nail Can Hill race last year.


Listener Rolle asks about what makes a great cross country athlete, specificity in terms of strength before Moose on the Loose lack of sympathy and disrespect for athlete disabilities and then Croker on the Loose goes off on the lack or respect given to the marathon as a sport.

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April 24, 2019  

077: Luke Mathews

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Brad’s down at Bateman’s Bay over Easter
Julian’s taking it easy down on the Surf Coast Trail
Brady takes a schooner mid run before taking second in the Bendigo Dragon Mile. Local stalwart Andy Buchanan took home his third sash in the Bendigo Dragon Mile, while Australian Mile Champion Whitney Sharpe won the Women’s ahead of Teleah Hayes.
Bendigo Advertiser Report

Melissa Duncan wins a track 5000 for Shiseido in the Japanese corporate running league.

The boys recap the Boston Marathon, including the final sprint duel between Lawrence Cherono and Lelisa Desisa for the victory, Worknesh Degefa taking the women’s crown while first American male Scott Fauble posts his PB of 2:09 on Strava.
Outside Online: Scott Fauble Wants to Tell You His Strava Secrets  

The boys preview the London Marathon taking place this Sunday, making predictions between Eliud Kipchoge Vs Mo Farah, Brett Robinson Vs Jack Rayner and Sinead Diver.


The listener question of the week asks the boys to elevator pitch an exciting new athletics event while Moose on the Loose bemoans commentators not doing their research


MyPhysio Evolution are this week’s sponsor of Inside Running and experienced sports physiotherapist Sam Leslie chats with Brady about the role physio has in a proactive capacity for an athlete, as well as in terms of rehabilitation and his “athlete specific before sport specific” philosophy. You can find out more on about Sam’s work and MyPhysio Evolution at


Luke Mathews chats with Brady before flying out to a training camp in Flagstaff, recapping his recent 1500m National Title at Sydney and why he sees doing more of the 1500m in his future career among other highlights in his young career. Luke talks about the influence of Ryan Gregson, as well as how his plans for competing in the Diamond League are forming before recounting his 800m Bronze Medal at the Gold Coast Commonwealth Games, then dealing with an injury that ended his season prematurely. He touches on the circumstances behind changing coaching and management in 2017 and the transition period before coaching under his mum Elizabeth as well as the disappointment in Rio Olympics, why he performed as he did competing against the atmosphere of a full stadium and the lessons he used in Gold Coast, ending with how he comes up with his victory line celebrations and being on Strava.

April 17, 2019  

076: Benita Willis (Part 2)


Brad jogs around the Canberra mara course and still doesn’t slow down.
Julian finds appreciation in his run/walks, and the process of slowly getting back into it.
Brady does a manual Mona and more speedwork for the Bendigo Dragon Mile.

Catriona Bisset breaks 2 minutes in the 800m at Uni, clocking the fastest time in 10 years and 4th fastest of all time in Australia.

Women’s Game Report


Nick Earl and Steph Auston win the 2019 Canberra Marathon

Canberra Times Report
Ash Watson wins 50k, although not in record time while Zoe Hawkins takes the women’s title.

Liam Adams & Milly Clark took out the Half Marathon while Leanne Pompeani Aaron Parker 10km. Featuring post-race audio taken live from the event with Nick Earl, Steph Auston, Liam Adams, Milly Clark and Ash Watson.


Nic Harman wins Kasumigaura 10 mile in Japan in what might be an exciting lead up to Gold Coast.


2 listener questions ask firstly about the hype around the latest Nike Free, and secondly, what could be done to raise the profile of athletics before Moose On The Loose exploiting the handicapping system in this weekend’s Stawell Gift.


Benita Willis continues her interview with Brad from where she left off last week, talking about the impact her World Cross victory had in the lead up to the Athens Olympics, before carrying an injury into the 10000m.

She talks about life as a full-time athlete, travelling on the international circuit and moving to Boulder and the different coaches and training systems she had over the years as well as running her marathons in 2008 and 2012 and why track speed was an important component of her training before her final marathon at the London Olympics and the decision to retire from professional competition. From there Benita talks openly about the challenges in transitioning from professional athletics into the workforce, getting into coaching and her roles in Queensland Athletics, organising training groups and role as a Gold Coast Marathon ambassador as well as addressing issues in the IAAF Commission, giving her thoughts on the newly implemented ranking system and Diamond League removing 5000m races from the program.

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April 10, 2019  

075: Benita Willis (Part 1) feat Isaac Heyne/Ash Watson

075: Benita Willis Part 1 feat.  Isaac Heyne, Ash Watson


Brad’s still off from running and following his rehab processes.
Julian’s resting his hips after some analysis and takes some perspective.

Brady reintroduces double-run days and is slowly back into full training.

Australian National Track & Field Championships took place over the first week of 2019, featuring Isaac Heyne winning the U20 5000m in a thriller and gives a short interview with Brady about his race, a little personal history and the story behind all his tattoos - you can learn more about his fundraiser here at Do It For Cancer.

-800m races won by Catriona Bisset & Peter Bol, both qualifying for Doha

-Men’s 1500m won by Luke Mathews

-3000m Steeplechase won by Paige Campbell & Max Stevens

Full Results

The pointy end of Run For The Kids featured a who’s who in the local running scene with Harry Summers fresh off the plane from Denmark taking the win over Liam Adams and Andy Buchanan, with Tarli Bird taking the win over Charlotte Wilson and Karinna Fyfe.

Run For the Kids Results


Listener Lachlan favourite race irrespective of the result while Moose On The Loose hands it over to Paula Radcliffe about a possible loophole exploitation in qualifying Boston Marathon.


Ash Watson has a short chat with Julian about attempting the 50km national record at Canberra, what it would take and the training that’s gone into it.


Benita Willis talks with Brad this week to coincide with the 15th anniversary of her World Cross Win at Brussels 2004, talking about the recent championship at Aarhus and her particular takeaway from the junior performances. Benita goes over growing up as a hockey player, in a sporty family in Mackay and how her love of team sports evolved into getting into running at school and running to race.
She goes into the progression of training, coaches and training partners that influenced her form as she represented Australia in the World Junior Track & Field and then onto the 2000 Sydney Olympics, recounting the experience of the Opening Ceremony and the atmosphere in the stadium running her 5000m.

Benita talks about moving from Australia to the UK to compete on the professional circuit, and the drive she had in taking every national record she could while running the 1500 and 5000 at the 2002 Manchester Commonwealth Games.
The first half of this interview concludes with the 2004 World Cross Country Championship in Brussels, how she was suited perfectly for cross country running, going over the championship races in the lead up, how the race unfolded and how she processed the race afterwards.

April 4, 2019  

074: Brett Robinson & Alan McCubbin

74: Brett Robinson & Alan McCubbin

Brad’s recovery takes a step back and the boys try to sort it out once and for all.
Julian’s searching for the flats for the sake of his hips, with an update on Ellie Pashley.
Brady’s patience pays off, getting back into a regular training week.

The World Cross Country Championship was held on a tough course in Aarhus, Denmark and victory was taken out by Joshua Cheptegi of Uganda and Hellen Obiri of Kenya. The Men’s team featured Brett Robinson coming in at 30th, a surprise performance from Matt Ramsden in 39th, while Melissa Duncan came 26th in women’s race. The Australian Men’s team placed 8th while the Women’s team placed 5th.

Brett Robinson calls in for an exclusive interview to recap his race, what the feeling around the team was in the lead up and he’s tracking into the London Marathon in 4 weeks time.

Australia’s newest distance running power couple Ben take out the inaugural Australia RunWest despite some hiccups.

Official Report

Jessica Hull takes out the 5000m Stanford Invitational

Oregon Ducks Report

Moose On The Loose handles the tricky topic on athletes lying about their age.

Alan McCubbin PhD at Monash University and previous guest returns to shed some light on the latest in Maurten’s patented hydrogel, explaining how it works and the history of the hydrogel before going into detailing a gastrointestinal study conducted to better understand the application of hydrogels in long endurance exercise and whether or not it lives up to the marketing hype.

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March 27, 2019  

073: Ray Boyd

Brad’s hitting up 1st Birthday Parties and still getting treatment, this time on his back.

Julian’s back running but is stopped with tight hips, arranging an immediate massage.

Brady’s been up all night with his legs still cooked and also gets an immediate massage appointment.

Sean Whipp adds some clarification on placing in IAAF Gold Label races with respect to points ranking from last week’s discussion.

Catriona Bisset of MUAC runs 21st fastest 800m at Vic Milers Club Women’s A Race, beating Georgia Griffith

Two listener question asks about tapering for a first half marathon, and hydration for Great Ocean Road Marathon, then Moose on the Loose takes it out on impatient recreational runners not appreciating the development process for short-term overreaching.

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Ray Boyd, 2:13 Marathoner and Western Australian Principal of the Year Winner joins Brady about his career in distance running and particularly the marathon starting with how his quest to qualify for the Sydney Olympics involved getting to Chicago by winning the Canberra Marathon.

Ray recounts his experiences with the Chicago Marathon that lead to his lifetime personal best, then follows up with running the 2000 Olympic Marathon Trial in Sydney, explaining the challenges with training for a marathon in Perth and the necessity in racing in the eastern states. Ray talks about balancing his high training with his career as a teacher, the reliance on modern technologies and the stories around Falls Creek training camps and the 1995 International Chiba Ekiden, closing with how his retirement from professional sport channelled his energy into teaching and mentions Lee Troop’s cheeky unofficial record at Falls Creek as well as the contemporaries he looked up to and who in Western Australian running excites him.

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March 19, 2019  

072: Grant Giles

72: Grant Giles

Brad continues to test the waters with his body, enjoying the running he can manage.
Julian & Brady come down with post-Lake Biwa Fever.

Chris Rancie asks about a possible scenario for Julian and Doha World Championships launching into the discussion into the new IAAF Ranking systems factoring in for qualification time, race selection and points allocation based on performances at select meets and races.

IAAF Qualification Press Release

List of 2020 Olympic Athletics Qualification Standards

Diamond League to drop the 5000m from 2020 season onwards, replacing it with the 3000m.
IAAF Press Release

Luke Mathews wins the 800m Jandakot Airport Track over Joseph Deng, Georgia Griffith edges Morgan Mitchell in the Women’s Race
Athletics Australia Report

Courtney Atkinson and Steph Auston take out 6 Foot Track Marathon

Matt Ramsden selected to represent Australia for the World Cross Country in Aarhus, Denmark replacing an injured Pat Tiernan.  

Listener Richard asks about how the boy’s perspective on their running goals has changed over the years and Moose on the Loose sets into the post-marathon blues.

Grant Giles chats with Brady about the importance of the mental aspect performance, touching on his career as a triathlete and coach before making the transitioning to ego psychologist. In this fascinating conversation, Grant covers a variety of topics from forming and managing your belief system, anchoring yourself to the flow of the process, accepting discomfort and the dark places when you get there and what can be learnt from observing Eliud Kipchoge.

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March 15, 2019  

071: Lake Biwa Recap & Rochelle Rodgers

71: Lake Biwa 2019 Recap | Rochelle Rodgers

Brady & Julian recap their respective races at Lake Biwa marathon and are joined by guest host Ellie Pashley, who ran the 9th fastest Female Australian Marathon at Nagoya Women’s Marathon on the same day. The three competitors give insight into their respective weeks leading in and detailed accounts of each of their races.

Other results from Lake Biwa features Nick Earl edging Julian in 2:14:38, plus the results of Aaron Pulford, Brad Milosovic, Brad Kahlfeldt and Reece Edwards as well as Tom Do Canto who was a withdrawal in the later stages of the race.

Keeping with the theme of Japanese marathons, this week's special guest is Rochelle Rodgers from Western Australia, off her 2:34 personal best at Shizuoka marathon joins Brady to give a recap of her own race that happened a few weeks before Lake Biwa & Nagoya, including how she even chose Shizuoka and the preparations after her second place at Melbourne Marathon 2018. Rochelle provides some insight into the WA running scene and how she got started via Little Athletics as well as her involvement with Front Runner Sports and coach Raf Baugh, what a typical training looks like, why she comes back to Melbourne Marathon as well as racing in Bali and how she spends her time outside of running.

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